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When Downloaded CHM's Just Don't Work.

This is more a note to myself, but you're welcome to remember this tip for yourself. I read about this last month on someones blog (the solution to this problem) but buggered if I could find it now that I need to remember what to do again.

Each month the MSDN mag comes out - and in downloadable CHM format to boot. This is wonderful. This month's has just come out, and I was hit with the same problem that I encountered last month.

If you're running XP with SP2, or Win2k3 with SP1, you'll likely have had security update 896358 applied to your machine. If so, then you've probably got this problem. When you download a CHM, windows might decide it's unsafe:

But even if you click Open, it doesn't render any HTML. Stupid bloody security update!

This problem has been documented under knowledge base article 902225. The problem here is that there's two workarounds suggested, and the first is just damn stupid. For some reason they're happy to suggest unblocking all CHM files that are downloaded from the internet, and allowing to just run every time (by unticking the check box in the above picture). Is it just me, or is this a really bad thing?

The second work around is more appropriate. If you right click on the specific file and hit properties:

You can click the Unblock button. This allows this single file to be trusted, but all other CHMs get left alone, the way they should be.

With all the efforts that went into SP2 (and 2k3SP1) I think they should be more careful about just advising people to trust all content again. Sure, for some people you might need to untick the box (if you deal with a lot of these files) but they should have suggested it second, with a note that this is possibly insecure.

Right, I'm off to read the mag now :)

Listening to: hey johnny park - foo fighters - (4:08)
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:09 AM by Geoff Appleby
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Comments

Mihir Solanki said:

I had similar problem sometime back ... have a look at my blog here ... http://www.mihirsolanki.com/blog/archive/2005/04/16/204.aspx

I too spend lots of time trying to figure out why only some files doesnt work.
# August 10, 2005 4:54 AM

Darren Neimke said:

Nice post mate. First, I wasn't actually aware that the Msdn Mag even had the .chm format - very useful!

Second, when I finally *did* discover that it had .chm format I'm sure that I would have spent forever trying to work out why all the Html was written in invisible markup.

Ta!
# August 10, 2005 5:31 AM

Daniel F said:

Daren: invisible markup is easy, you just have to rub lemon juice on your screen, then not scroll while it uninvisibles the writing :)

Thanks for the tip Geoff. I downloaded a CHM the other day and thought the dl was corrupt. Turns out XP was holding my hand all the time.
# August 10, 2005 5:52 AM

PJR said:

I get this problem too... unfortunately, mines on a network share, and doesnt give me the unblock option... i find windows to be completely daft...

say for example, i have a help file on "m:" drive which is mapped to a server, i cant use "M:\file.chm" but i can use "\\servername\share\file.chm"... that is so frigging daft, microsoft are just so dumb
# October 9, 2005 9:03 PM

rasin said:

Hi,
A wiered thing happened on my xp sp2,
I have two hard disks I downloaded a chm file
from internet and put on my first hard dist ,
after that I copied it to another hard dist on the same machine it does not display the content. It displays page not found.
# April 20, 2006 3:08 AM

Geoff Appleby said:

Hi rasin,

Yeah, the page not found is what comes up when you _haven't_ unblocked the file, but you still open it. Did you have the security warning come up like in the first picture above?

# April 20, 2006 3:54 AM

JOHN said:

Hey Guys,

I am creating a helpfile, i have created a chm file, which i want to open in my website, so that users of the website can click a hyperlink and view the content...

The problem is that, when i open without its balnk, but if i save it i can view..and one more thing is that i dont get the options the two options which were mentioned above.

can you guys suggest me some way around so that i can open a chm file when i click the hyperlink and see the contents without saving the chm file on my computer..

thanks a lot for your interest in helping me

John
# June 22, 2006 3:10 PM

chris said:

I don't get the security option on a .chm file I have on a network drive when I look at the properties. Could this be a function of local security/group security (the button being missing)?

I also tried what someone mentioned above by using a direct connect to the remote location (\\server\loc) and was not able to open the .chm.

# September 5, 2006 11:26 AM

tt said:

I have a case where the user can't even view local .chm files and there is no 'Unblock' option on the XP properties tab. Other suggestions I've found (editing the Registry or setting Max Zone to 4) can't really be advised in this case (tightly controlled desktop environment) so any further ideas?

Jeez Microsoft can make you look unprofessional sometimes...

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