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Domain Names. Buh?

For all my geekiness, there's some things I know very little about.

I know, I know, it's a bi tof a surprise, but it's true. Really.

Domain name registering. I really have very little idea about them. I know how DNS works, and stuff like that, but actually buying a domain name, and getting it pointed at where it needs to point at and all that? No idea. It's actually more trouble than it's worth here in Australia - to get a .com.au address, you have to prove you have a business and the name must be similar to the business name. .net.au is supposed to only be available for things like service providers. .org.au for non-profit organisations. And they cost a packet.

But let's move into a world where there's no .au on the end. Then things change a lot - you buy a domain name from the states and it costs you very little money. And I'd like to do this sometime soon. A quick search on google brings up many places where I could purchase a domain name, and the one I want is available.

But what do I do then? I pay some money (very little compared to aussie prices) and then what? Currently I have no actual server to attach it to (paying out the bucks for hosting can wait) but I'd like to at least have the name registered, and look at getting it to just redirect somewhere else (like, say, my blog :) - I know it can be done, since Darrell does it himself (http://www.darrellnorton.com redirects to his blog here).

But how? What do I do? Can anyone point me at the right info?

Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2005 4:17 PM by Geoff Appleby
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Ben Reichelt said:

Geoff, I registered www.benreichelt.net and it redirects to codebetter like darrell's does. You can register a domain name at places like godaddy.com, you'll pay something like $10 a year. To point that address at my blog, I use a free service called ZoneEdit (www.zoneedit.com). Among other things, they let you do a dns redirect, so that when people go to benreichelt.net, it goes to the ZoneEdit dns server which redirects it to my blog.
# October 9, 2005 8:21 PM

Brendan Tompkins said:

Geoff.. Yeah, it's waaay easy. I usually do it all at GoDaddy.Com, but as long as they give you good tools to manage the DNS forwarding and locking, not much difference. Don't pay more than 10/year US tho.

# October 9, 2005 8:53 PM

Geoff Appleby said:

Thanks guys. Looks easy.

Now, next question: can I forward multiple things? Like, say i was register foo.com (no, i'm not going to). Could i make so that www.foo.com comes to my blog, _and_, say, pictures.foo.com comes to my photo gallery? Do i start getting charged for multiple things?
# October 9, 2005 9:12 PM

Daniel F said:

here at Redgum we use www.changeip.com - it costs a little bit per year ($6 US I think per domain), but they let you easily setup the subdomains and can do subdomain redirections to either straight IP addresses, or "framed" redirections (these are yick but they get the job done for temporary stuff). Very easy, pretty cheap, well worth the money I reckon. Oh, you get unlimited subdomains for each top level domain you pay for. They have a free service available too, I'm not entirely sure what's included. They can do all the DNS entries too, so you can manage your MX records, etc. Also, and this might be good till you get your paid hosting, they have a thing where you can direct your domain to an IP addy and have a backup page should that domain be down. From memory its hosted on their server, but it could be a start.

Probably off track, but I've got an asp.net redirector that will take stuff like pictures.foo.com and blogs.foo.com and response.redirect to user specifiable paths like foo.com/gallery and foo.com/blog. We use it at the root level of our server so we can hand out easy urls like demo.optimanet.com and have it go somewhere slightly harder to remember. Hit me up at daniel at redgum dot com dot au if you want a copy of the code. Its not rocket science, I whipped it up in an hour or so, but its proven to be handy.

HTH
Daniel
# October 9, 2005 10:39 PM

Grant Holliday said:

Hi there Geoff,

I agree with Ben's comments: GoDaddy.com and ZoneEdit is a good combination. I have been using ZoneEdit for about 4 years, and I have never had a problem with any of my domains.

To answer your question, in ZoneEdit you can setup different redirects for different sub domains just like you're after. They call these "WebForwards". You can forward any number of subdomains to either URLs or IP addresses on the Internet. (A records). http://www.zoneedit.com/doc/faq.html#faq34

Another very useful feature are MailForwards. You can setup a catch-all to forward to your current email address. Or if you're very keen, you can run your own mailserver and have ZoneEdit act as the backup MX for it.

While I'm here, they also offer a Dynamic DNS service. You setup a DNS record, say myserver.mydomain.com then on your server at home with a dynamic IP address, you run a program that updates the DNS records every time you get a new IP address. This way you can access your home connection from anywhere without having to guess the IP / purchase a static IP.

If you want any more information, send me an email grant at holliday dot com dot au.

Grant
# October 9, 2005 11:09 PM

Stephen Price said:

Hey Geoff,

I've been using www.joker.com for my .com domain, and www.austdomains.com.au for my aussie one. (cheapest i've found so far but its been a while since i last looked around)

As for the aussie domain name, you dont have to choose a domain name the same as your business name. You can choose a domain name that matches a product of your business. Seeing that you can have any product you want... thats the way around the strict aussie domain name thingy. Make a "product" with the name you want, then apply... :)

Hey, I have littlevoices t-shirts... so its all legal! :)

good luck with it
Stephen
# October 10, 2005 12:17 AM

Geoff Appleby said:

Sah-weeeet!

GoDaddy for the purchase, zoneedit for the management. Looks like it's a go!

Thanks for all the help guys :)
# October 10, 2005 2:14 AM

ashapochka said:

Hi Geoff, you should probably have a look at http://www.webhostingtalk.com It is a forum dedicated to everything about webhosting and there are many knowledgable and professional folks and insightful posts on the subject out there.
# October 10, 2005 4:34 AM

Fregas said:

Hey, if you want some hosting, I run my own server out at here in Fort Worth, TX, that's on redundant OC3 connections, not DSL. I don't normally sell hosting, but since you're a CodeBetter.com guy, i'd be willing to give you 1gb with unlimited sites/databases.

Yeah it looks like everyone already told you about Godaddy.com. I have them do my email, registration and DNS, which is nice because I only have one place to go to manage it all.

Craig
# October 10, 2005 10:12 AM

Darrell Norton said:

Looks like you got your question answered! Cool.
# October 10, 2005 9:55 PM

Mihir Solanki said:

GoDaddy is very reliable and cheap. There is offer going on, you can register a domain in just $1.99/year. I have few domains with them. No problem so far. Very fast service, sometimes it hardly takes 2-3 hours to get it up and running and ya, they also accept payment via paypal.

-- Mihir
# October 11, 2005 12:14 PM

William Luu said:

Geoff, get a .id.au domain!

It's the only type of Aussie domains that don't need you to be a registered something or other.

I pay $28.95 for 2 years at namescout.com.au

And there's currently a $2.99US for .com/.net domains deal at Yahoo [http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/]
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